oh brother wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:28 AM:you gotta love murrieta. nothing will EVER be built on golden triangle north properties. the city will block every single proposal forever. ask the owners of cd murrieta how many potential suitors the city ran off. it is a shame. the bottom line is tax revenue. not recreation or quality of life for residents. sad.

Gary in Murrieta wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:53 AM:Oh Come on Now! Just build it now! My wife has to drive to Escondido or Riverside City at least twice a month for my daughter's Ice Skating lessons. With the time and gas money we would save, she could be going twice a week, in Murrieta.

Imagine... wrote on Aug 26, 2008 5:08 AM:..how much faster this would be if the city worked WITH them to get one built! They're all but offering to build this thing, and the city reps are going to sit on their thumbs and do nothing but contemplate the issues of getting it done. If it was a Super Target, it'd be half done by now. Another fine example of how all this city knows how to approve is retail - nothing concrete to better the city!

ToImagine wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:55 AM:I agree the ice rink would be built quickly if the city wanted to be helpful. Prolonging and complicating projects is, unfortunately, how our city employees manufacture their own job security. But I disagree about the city being good at retail. They suck at that too. Retail tax revenues did not keep pace with all the mass housing construction, and we suffer financially.

Cautiously optimistic wrote on Aug 26, 2008 7:58 AM:Let me understand this...you have a non-profit that has "pledged" to raise part of the funding, has submitted no plans to the city, and yet oh brother and imagine somehow think its the city's fault it's not built yet. I don't for one minute think the city is perfect, but at least give them a fair shake.

Murrieta Mom wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:06 AM:100,000 people in Murrieta and we need support a 6.5 mill. facility for 25 kids?My kid drives the same amout of miles to surf ,will Murrieta build a Wave so he can save gas?

The wet blankets wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:11 AM:I'm trading my Murrieta blanket for one of those wet blankets that the people from the City use for just about everything. We have an enthusiastic group of people willing to address a community need that the City has never addressed and all you get are negative comments from the likes of Gary Thomasian and Co. If the City is going to simply throw as many obstacles as they can in front of this effort, they are right, it will be tough to build.

Hmm wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:14 AM:Just approve the darn project! Once it's built, the retail, hotel and whatever else will follow. Since it'll eventually link to The Triangle from Monroe, why do they need to think about this?

Amazed wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:17 AM:It is 25 TEAMS not 25 individual kids. Read the story before you comment.

Thin Ice Idea wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:22 AM:This is the typical political pandering exhibited in Murrieta. Just say "NO" and let the city seek a GREEN agenda. Non profit after salaries have been payed, will private lessons and coaching be available at a non profit fee of FREE? You folks have been in the cold too long and need to let your thinking caps thaw out.

to Amazed wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:50 AM:Read you might "participate in as many as 25 traveling hockey teams" Not comprise. The wording is ambiguous, but this is the intent of the statement to mislead the numbers and you got hooked. Some kids play on several teams, making the numbers even smaller.

OhMom wrote on Aug 26, 2008 9:35 AM:You always exaggerate everything to your own particular benefit. Did you encourage your kids to get into a sport in which the participants are occasionally killed by a shark, or break their necks on submerged rocks? Let them skate.

Former Resident wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:20 AM:As far as the idea goes, it's good, but not great. The arena's functionality is practical to various needs in the city, but who will be the main control of its contracts and usage? Approving it doesn't mean it will be best utilized by the community. There's so much competition for sports in Murrieta that it could lead to a whole new set of problems if managed incorrectly. Ideas are always great, it's the people in charge of ideas that can be troublesome.
Let alone, now isn't the best time to expect generous donations for a $6.5 million project... with the need of equipment and additional capital afterward. I don't see possible approval coming any sooner than this Winter, if things improve.

As the beach argument goes, get the plans for the road through the hills completed.

Iceman wrote on Aug 26, 2008 11:47 AM:The end of the article is very misleading. How ironic that the writer quotes Mr. Thomassian and a member of
the Community Services Parks department
on a time frame for the project's development. The Inland Valley Sports and Arena Commission got frustrated enough with these people to seek out a private property site for this arena. Unfortunately, this City expects developers to pay the cost for all our public and park ammenities with builder fees. When the builder fees stop coming in, the parks plan goes on a "seven year plan". The project is much better off with the deal they've struck with private property owners. Give the Commission time to complete the entitlement and planning process in conjunction with the hotel development and we'll have something the community needs in spite of the "hem and haw" City fathers. The only thing the Rescue Murrieta contingent has rescued us from is people with vision and passion!

its about the community wrote on Aug 26, 2008 12:59 PM:I wonder if the same people who are bashing this project will be enjoying it's benefits? I love listening to all the rhetoric about this group. All they do is dredge on, through the crap thrown at them, they are trying to bring something our Valley can be proud of. The whole premise of this project is the give a "Gem" to the valley, and allow our youth to enjoy the same benefits that others have. If you want to commute out of here for entertainment, be my guest. IVSAC is about working for the community, not against it. At least they have vision, and are doing whatever they can to bring it to fruition, without the aid of the nay-sayers. Stay negative, please. It drives them forward, and gives them the momentum to prove we as a community deserve something nice for everyone. What, we need more furniture stores and Club stores? Keep up the momentum IVSAC, there is more people behind this and more are coming on board.

Go IVSAC wrote on Aug 26, 2008 2:08 PM:Kudos to these people for staying the course and knocking down the obstacles one at a time.
Securing a land use agreement is a huge hurdle. Lets cheer them on as they move forward with the next phase.

ex-san diegan wrote on Aug 26, 2008 4:57 PM:I live in Temecula and pretty much EVERYTHING related to fun activities for my children, are in Murrieta. Pump it Up, Sky Hi, Bounce U and Pole Position are all in Murrieta. I would love an ice rink so my kids so they can learn ice skating because Temecula is too involved with their wineries and gambling to care anything about kids.

hmm wrote on Aug 26, 2008 5:11 PM:will this place be open on friday or saturday nights for open session ice skating for teens and kids to do? if not then i say no way

wuts going to happen wrote on Aug 26, 2008 5:15 PM:to all the homes already on this property and surrounding properties? many of these people have owned them since before murrieta was even a city...i love how the city envisions all these wonderful un-needed things (such as more hotels and retail) being built before most of the current land owners have even promised to sell their land

getAclue wrote on Aug 26, 2008 5:19 PM:If the city was smart they would approve this ASAP. You bring travel teams into the city they will stay at OUR hotels and bring in revenue for the city with the room tax. Wake up voters and start electing real council members that are interested in this city and its kids. You will not get from our current council the majority of them dont have any school aged kids. I agree with the Rescue Murrieta comment. Their agenda has destroyed this city. What a shame

Larry wrote on Aug 26, 2008 8:42 PM:How about a DRY ice rink? THAT would attract the high school kids.

To Murrieta Mom and all who oppose wrote on Aug 27, 2008 7:22 AM:Have we heard of public skating? That will probably be an option as well for the general public, aside from the Hockey (ice and roller) leagues that will benefit. With the 100,000 plus people in the area, including the people from L.E., Wildomar, Sun City, Hemet, Temecula, Canyon Lake, etc. this would be a great place for kids parties as well. This area needs more family friendly place. This is actually an activity that children and adults will get excercise from! Oh, and Temecula was going to build a water park, probably with a wave pool but thats getting squashed too. Can't do much about the Ocean mom. What an ignorant comment. Just like I can't move mountains when we want to ski! Let's give our own communities revenue!

Murrieta Mom wrote on Aug 27, 2008 8:52 AM:most of you attacking other people for their views must realize some of us know better. There was a indoor soccer field, outdoor hockey sized soccer fields, wiffle ball leagues,roller hockey courts,basketball leagues,all for kids and the community did not support these more popular less expensive sport parks. The roller rink is GONE,BROKE,KAPUTT. Why?Ice Sports are hard to fund, period,take the NHL ask your neighbor the last time they watched a Hockey Game? Move to Canada!

You keep coming back wrote on Aug 27, 2008 11:43 AM:Murrieta Mom, do us a favor, take your negative views and share them with people that are negative like you. Those facilities were run to make a profit, period.KAPUT,because they couldn't get rich. This is about a Arena that serves a multidude of events. Public skating, with your kids, High school Proms, Graduations, car shows, teen events, the list goes on. This is exactly what this Valley needs, a place for EVERYONE ( even the negative minded people, who will enjoy it when it's completed) and these people should be commended for trying to better our community and give the youth and parent's a different alternative. The people of the commission are trying to improve the community, not destroy it.

Murrieta Mom wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:36 PM:The level of aggression displayed by the pro-Hockey crowd is typical of their behavior displayed on the ice. "If you don't like them ,fight them." This action resulting in a 2 min. penalty in the corner,where in any other sport it would be considered unacceptable and,at the very least,you would be removed from the game.I refuse to let you bully me,so attack the topic. This area will not support such a venue,this is the facts. Fill up the SUV, put in your favorite CD and Drive....ByeBye

Listen to Reason wrote on Aug 27, 2008 6:50 PM:Murrieta Mom is right, this town supports nothing.Everybody wants, but no one has the time or the dime.We all know the two or three parents that do all the work and we stand and let them do it. If you want this facility in your city get a group, large enough to make their vote worth collecting and go to the next city council meeting and let your voices be heard. Good Luck...........

An Idea wrote on Aug 27, 2008 10:59 PM:They can build the ice rink inside
the new city hall in Temecula since
the officials are always going in
circles already..

And you are the all knowing why wrote on Aug 28, 2008 8:50 AM:Pro-Hockey crowd? What is that...We are talking about an Arena, right.. Since you know all the facts about the area not able to support something like this, please enlighten us all. Go ahead, I for one would like to see those facts. Second, you seem know a lot about hockey, must just be a closet fan. This was a article about a letter being signed between 2 parties, who share a vision and want to progress forward to get something this unique built. If you don't want to support it fine, don't enjoy it's benefits when it's completed. Trying to bring the city into an agreement like this was noble, but they have no desire to develop something that would be a benefit to the community. So I see that you must be on the city's side. Good for you, that's why I think this will succeed, because the more negative minded people that voice their opinion, the more the positve people come out and lend the support of such a wonderful and unique thing such as this. Tell Ontario that they can't support a facility like this, oh wait, it's already built.