REGION: Hearing on controversial toll road set for Monday

Strict rules will govern how public sounds off on federal appeal

By DAVE DOWNEY - Staff Writer | Saturday, September 20, 2008 5:09 PM PDT

DEL MAR ---- The thousands of people who are expected to attend a federal hearing on a proposed San Onofre toll road will face a host of rules designed to prevent a raucous meeting like the one hosted by the state in February.

Attendees will be held to strict time limits for speaking, barred from waving signs and warned against heckling, federal officials say. And hired security officers will be on hand to escort violators out of the building.

Hosted by the U.S. Commerce Department's National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the hearing is scheduled to run from 10:30 a.m. to 8:30 p.m. Monday in O'Brien Hall at the Del Mar Fairgrounds.

Ben Sherman, a spokesman for the administration, said officials don't know how many people are coming, but 650 have signed up to speak. Given the time allotted for testimony, however, fewer than one-third are likely to get the chance to talk.

An estimated 3,500 attended the earlier California Coastal Commission hearing, which took on a carnival atmosphere with people cheering, chanting, booing and waving signs inside a cavernous fairgrounds meeting hall, and sampling food and passing out pamphlets at booths outside.

That hearing drew surfers and environmentalists who said the project would spoil San Onofre, one of California's most popular state parks and one of the last remaining natural places on the urban Southern California coast.

Some opponents engaged in impromptu shouting matches with construction workers who supported the project. Construction unions were looking for a piece of the $875 million that an Orange County transportation agency would spend to pave the 16-mile highway's first four lanes.

The California Coastal Commission rejected the project, and the Orange County agency is asking the Commerce Department to override the state. The agency had the option of appealing because the park is on leased federal land.

Monday's hearing is intended to give Southern Californians the chance to weigh in on the appeal.

The commission determined that the toll road could hasten the decline of imperiled species, degrade the world-class surfing waves at Trestles Beach and compromise the solitude of a state park campground.

The road agency, noting the beach itself would not be paved, said its scientific consultants have repeatedly found that wildlife would not be harmed and the waves would not be affected. They maintain the campground's solitude already is compromised by the noise from nearby Interstate 5.

As for hearing participants, they will be restricted on the noise they make.

For starters, speakers will be limited to talking for three minutes, and won't be able to cede time to people who want to speak longer.

If someone walks out to take a break just before being called, he or she won't be allowed to speak later.

And if you didn't bother to sign up by Sept. 12, forget about speaking.

"You're past the deadline," said Sherman, the administration spokesman.

If you are one of the 650 who made the deadline, prepare to wait in line behind a parade of elected officials. Area city council members, state and federal lawmakers and others will get first crack at talking ---- and four minutes each to make their points.

Asked why officials will get more time, Sherman said, "The idea is that public officials represent a large group of people as opposed to individuals who represent themselves."

Then again, perhaps you'll want to do your talking through a creative, catchy sign. That's fine, say federal officials, but your sign can be no larger than 13 inches by 24 inches and you must keep it in your lap or hold it in front of your body. No one will be permitted to hoist or wave a sign.

Besides targeting speakers and sign-holders, the rules address overall crowd behavior. "No cheering, booing, heckling or other disruptions will be tolerated," federal officials said, in a four-page paper laying out the ground rules.

"Anyone violating any of these instructions will be asked to leave and escorted from the hearing room," officials said, adding that if the crowd becomes unruly, they may cancel the event.

Contact staff writer Dave Downey at (760) 745-6611, Ext. 2623, or ddowney@nctimes.com.

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Ask wrote on Sep 20, 2008 6:02 PM:How sad.

Years to come, there will be a special on this. It will be viewed as a major mistake and a huge blow to the environment.

For the folks who got the water cut up north, they need to come down here and work some mojo.

He Said wrote on Sep 21, 2008 5:15 AM:How utterly outrageous. The Feds want a mature professional meeting venue without passionate mob rule disruptions.

NO TOLL ROAD wrote on Sep 21, 2008 8:57 AM:Sounds like a funeral. Let's hope the death blow for this road is dealt!

Bo wrote on Sep 21, 2008 12:02 PM:Keep Orange County toll roads in Orange County!

Legal Beegle wrote on Sep 21, 2008 12:51 PM:This government bureacracy is trying to overturn what our state governing agency has already decided: NO TOLL ROAD. There isn't going to be a riot or anything like an angry mob. The only ones who were angry last time were the proponents of the over-priced toll road that benefits Orange County and burdens San Diego County and road workers who were paid to be there. Let's go and show them we care about our community, our environment and each other and oppose this ridiculous road!

jag wrote on Sep 21, 2008 4:59 PM:it would have been nice if this article would have had a map showing the area and where the road is proposed. this road will just dump all the south bound traffic just north of oceanside (northwest corner of san diego county). forget about trying to get anywhere in the summer months. there is a map of this project on the san diego tribune site and i do not understand why it has to cover a portion of camp pendleton. seems they can put it a little more north and avoid most of the hassle. more effort and money should be put into mass transit and not more and bigger roads. and just the fact that a government agency says it will not harm the beach or damage the waves, is a sure sign that they are lying. i am sure that they need this road so they can develope all of the old el toro land. find a better way.

Jimmy wrote on Sep 21, 2008 7:08 PM:It can't go farther north or you'll have to bulldoze through homes in San Clemente. The Marines won't permit it to go further south or it will interfere with their training missions.

This road has been under environmental analysis for more than a decade. It's time to finally finish this road, connect it to the I-5 and give people an alternate to the freeway.

Show of support wrote on Sep 22, 2008 6:12 AM:Every driver has met with the traffic jams that occur when wider stretches of streets, freeways, and/or toll roads get squeezed into the few freeway or street lanes that intersect. Witness I-15 and Highway 78 or the I-5 and I-805. What a mess. Traffic gets backed up for miles. If the proponents of 241 think that all of us are so foolish as to overlook this, they have another thing coming. It will be very difficult for Southern California (San Diego County) to protect our rights against the Federal Highway Commission. We can only hope and show up to let them know wht a huge issue this is.

SSH wrote on Sep 22, 2008 9:18 AM:The proponents of 241 (TCA) don't care about relieving traffic congestion. They care about making a profit, justifying further unsustainable OC development, then leaving the taxpayers holding the bag. All they have to do is sell the idea to the right decision makers, and the $$$ is theirs.

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